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Buggy build in Norway

Postby Lillert » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:57 pm

Well, here is my buggy build! My english isn't that good, but i hope you understand what i write!

Progress is slow, but when the steel arrives, progress will be made! :mrgreen:
I have bought the plans for the cuda, but i will make some changes to it as it will be a 2 seater.

The engine is a 05/06 Kawa ZX6RR

I will use the shafts and hubs from a BMW E34 525i and some other parts, like steering.

I have some questions aswell:
*Does anyone know if i need the original ignitionlock and the original dash?

I am VERY gratefull for any response to my questions! :D or any response at all!

André

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The engine arrived from England today, looks like a mess, but everything seemed to be intact.
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Today's catch! :mrgreen:
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The Throttlebodies
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The coils - Some corrosion, but nothing serious
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The diff - I will use this instead of buying the sentre drive cartridge, money saved!
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calipers and hubs - Is it usable?
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The shafts - from a BMW 525i E34 - I can't get to high angle on them, as the CV only measures something like 104mm x 30mm
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The steering - I will extend the outer arms, and shorten the midle one.
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Some pictures of the pipebender - picked it up for about 160$
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby itchyback » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:45 pm

Hey,
I'm sure i wont be alone saying that the zx6 wont be powerful enough for a barracuda, if thats all the money you've got though then its a good start until you save up for something bigger. I'm interested to see how you get the diff to work please tell us more :).
Also i used the same bender as you did make sure to fill the tubes with sand and also the bends vary slightly. That means a 60degree bend might use 15cm of steel one time and 16cm the next measure every bend and cut the steel to length after youve bent it.
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby rashid7 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:21 am

I used the same engine in my piranha buggy ,power is great and more than enough :D
But I don't know what it will do in a cuda modified to two seaters

Which model is yor engine?
Is it a Canadian spec?
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby Lillert » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:58 am

Thank you for the tips on the pipebender, itchyback. It's something I will find very usefull in my build! :D

It's a 636, european spec engine with something around 130hp and 80nm. It's the last 636 from kawa before they started making the 599.
The kawa engine is nothing like a busa or ZX14, but it won't be slow, will it?
It's my first build, so I decided to go with a not so high performance engine. I will find something faster later :)

I gave a grand for the engine, and i bought it from England. In Norway I can get something like 1600-1700$, so thats another reason for buying the engine.

I hope that the engine will be enough to pull a two seat cuda :shock:

The diff will look very much like this, but the plan was to use a four joint bearing mount instead of the two joint on the picture.
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What do you guys think? :mrgreen:
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby dutchy » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:57 am

looks kinda flimsy in the pic.
can't you use the original bairing mounts on the diff with sealed bairings and then just use the bmw stub axles?
just a thought
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby Lillert » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:05 am

That was the best illustration i found on the internet, but I will do as you say and use the original bearing mounts on the diff and the BMW stub axles.
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby dutchy » Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:25 am

ok keep us posted on that looks interesting.
are you sealing yours up or leaving it open like in the pic?
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby rob8420 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:09 am

Another tip on the pipe bender if you doing more bend angle than the die if you just move the tube (once you have filled the die so to speak) to the right or left so it just bends it in a different place so you wont get crinks in the pipe :D

Looks intersting build i will keep checking this thread :)

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Re: Buggy build in Norway - ZX6R engine

Postby Lillert » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:40 am

I will make an alu cover for the diff, and use grease as lubrication instead of oil.

Thank you Robin, I will use that in my build! :)

It have been 10-C* and colder this last days, so i didn't have the motivation to go out and start on the frame...
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Lillert » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:17 pm

Sorry for asking a bunch of questions as a newbie here on the forum, but what do you guys think about the BMW axles?

I'm wondering what the max safe angle will be on the CV's, and if it is enough.

I also have another question:
If I use the BMW hubs, The minimum rim size will be 14 or 15", is this to big for the cuda?

I will be very gratefull if anyone could give me some answers! :mrgreen:
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Tony » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:46 am

Rim size is not an issue.
What is an issue is tyre diameter.
DO NOT exceed 30".
Even with a 30" tyre you will need power steering.

CV's
I don't like exceeding 20 degrees.
You can go more but reliability becomes an issue.
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Lillert » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:00 pm

Thank you Tony!

I will use some smaller tyres then. I don't want powersteering...

But is the BMW CV's capable of that? stupid question as this is no BMW forum, but the 930 CV's are a bit bigger than the BMW ones, won't that affect the maximum angle?
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Jet » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:29 pm

Hi mate, dont go for more than 26" tyres for the 600cc motor, it will be very fun.
no more than 20* on those cv's, set them up for 18*

Not sure how long your diff will last with no oil!

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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Lillert » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:38 pm

Okey, I will go for some 26" tires.

If 18* will be okey with those CV's, that will be more than enough.

I will use grease for the diff. There is noe way to seal up the diff without using the original diff housing, so i will make an alu housing for it, and grease it up.
I tried to just seal the stub axles with O-rings, and poured som oil into it. There was no leakage, but when it get exposed to wear and tear i think it will start to leak. So grease is the best solution i think :)
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - CV angle?

Postby Jet » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:45 am

How about a lip seal?
You could weld the windows in the diff up and put a oil fill hole on it.
Not sure how will it will work but!
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Re: Buggy build in Norway

Postby Lillert » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:52 pm

I actually came up with the same thought yesterday!

I thought maybe I could use my lathe to turn up some grooves in the stub axle inserts and put some lip seals there.

I don't know if I will just weld the windows, or if I will make an alu cover yet. The easiest would be just welding them as you said, Phil.
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Re: Buggy build in Norway

Postby achurch43 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:58 pm

hey what did u get your differential out of?
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Re: Buggy build in Norway

Postby Lillert » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:31 pm

I got the diff out of a 93 BMW E34. I wanted a LSD diff or something similar with limited slip, or even better, a lock! But the one i got from the BMW has the right bolt diameter for the axles.
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - Steering rack?

Postby Lillert » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:13 am

What do you guys think about the steering rack? is there any pros/cons with this setup? do you think it is suitable, or do you think I should get one of these pinion steerings I see you guys use? :)

I don't think a sandblast would hurt for some of the parts either...
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Re: Buggy build in Norway - Steering rack?

Postby aschjem » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:14 am

I have shortened rack and pinion from a VW Golf 1 on mine, after some hours with studying and measurements it was a quite easy operation.
Im going to spend some xtra money to buy a XRV rack and pinion on my next build.

The one you have there is a heavy duty type and take some mores space in front. You have to do some fabrication to make it fit. Also, be aware that cars rack and pinion is slow and dont give you the quick handling you need in this buggy.

Nice temperatur outside this week, have you start with the frame yet?

If you want to have a look at mine, just take a ride over the hill, it is only 45 min away.

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