The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:12 pm

Insurance from the last debacle is in the bank so starting all over again...

The plan this time is AA front and rear, the mods I made last time partway through will form the original build, will have 200mm in cockpit for my 6'4" to fit and 200mm in the engine bay because you run out of room so damn quick in there!

Steel is ordered and have been fitting out my workshop properly with my lathe now having a cooling system, welding table and plasma cutter and my new build table

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It's an air / hydraulic bike lift with yellow tongue flooring on top for a level surface.

Was looking at seats, would need a Sparco Evo III for my fat arse but didn't want to spend $850 so went with a basic SAAS seat for now. I bought the seat first this time because it was the start of the dramas when I put it in I realised I didn't fit last time.

Will update as I go with no outlandish finish dates - happy that my 12 year old spent the day in the shed with me sorting the workshop out
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby aceface » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:49 pm

Great to see your up and running again mate, will be watching this one. Wont say good luck cause you wont need it
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby 19wilson67 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:25 pm

yeh me too can only mean an easier and better build as you have done it all before, keep the faith bud

Oh and call me cheeky but i thought i would post a link to your previous build thread so newbies to the forum can learn about the legendary back story in the future
http://www.edgebuggyforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=300

Hope you dont mind, let me know if you do, lol
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Steel is here, have extra bandsaw blades so bring on Saturday!
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mclovin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:35 pm

Best of luck mate! I'm very much looking forward to this build!

I sometimes wish I could start again with the knowledge I have now. The build quality would be far superior and so much faster!
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:28 pm

Maybe a question for Tony - my plans I purchased back in 2001/2002 were the series 1 plans, I downloaded the pages you made available for the series 2 changes but is it worth me getting a new set? Were there other changes made since I bought mine that would make it worthwhile?

I bought the AA rear plans last week, my steel is all here now, I have just paid for my AA laser cut plates from The Edge so I am raring to go, just curious as to what else may have changed...

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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Tony » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:51 pm

Mongrel.
There are not really any other changes if you have the Double A rear plans as well as the drawings for the upgrade rear bar work.
You should be OK.
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:12 pm

Awesome thanks Tony - with the original plans, AA rear plans, AA front plans and the TORC regs my plan book is getting bulky!

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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Tony » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:48 pm

Piranha series 1 plans are rare as not many were sold before we upgraded to the series II design.
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:00 pm

A little piece of history, wasn't long after I got them that the upgrade was done.

Starting cutting the bottom frame tonight and redoing the geometry to have it without wings threw me for a bit but back on track now...
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby aceface » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:03 pm

Go for it, watching with interest. I'm plumbing my engine in and its taking forever.
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby DeRat » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:38 pm

Your an Inspiration buddy...... Great to see your underway again....... & love the name very fitting
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Very exciting day - Day 1 of the rebuild!

Got a little bit done...

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Also got the front rollbar bent up, made a few changes to the original plans but the bench was a great marking out surface so everything got squared up properly and my protractor got a fair workout!

That's the easy bit out of the way, it's all the fiddly bits that take all the time. Will start on the AA front next week while I wait for the rear plates to arrive

Feels good to be back into it again I must say!!
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby DeRat » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:23 pm

Looking good buddy, love the Workbench Idea, great for templating
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby aceface » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:30 pm

Looking good, great progress. Youve done this before havent you lol :lol:
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:01 pm

Day2:

Took the kids to the movies and to the park, bought them a new PS3 game to keep them occupied so by 2.30pm my good dad duties were sorted and it was back into the shed!

Bent up the rear rollbar, took a bit of fiddling until I was happy with it but it should look the goods as well as give me the headroom and protection I need...

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Also made up my notching attachment for the lathe, thanks to all that chimed in with ideas I took a bit from everyone. All was good until the arbor snapped on the 2nd notch (learning all new lessons here - don't back it out while still running!)

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Test Notch done:

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Have ordered my 3 row Civic radiator today so I can make sure it fits when I do the rear bars, waiting on rear AA plates from Tony and possibly front brake setup as well.

Won't get much more done this week I reckon, already hearing the 'Buggy Widow' rumblings around the house so might have to go easy for a bit or at least distract everyone for a while!

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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:55 pm

A question:

Are the top rollbars critical in their spacing? I would like them more outboard for aesthetic looks but it then drops below the radius on the bend. Is where I have them now an ideal spot, too narrow or too wide?

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They are just sitting there for now. I guess the other option is to run another set of bars inline with the sun visor bar and roll a roof panel to suit?

I did run them pretty wide last time but just checking first - was never 100% happy with them

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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby brendon18 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:08 pm

Mongrel wrote:A little piece of history, wasn't long after I got them that the upgrade was done.

Starting cutting the bottom frame tonight and redoing the geometry to have it without wings threw me for a bit but back on track now...

Hey mongrel how wide is the frame with the wings ? Great to see you getting back in to it keep up the good work mate.
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby aceface » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:31 pm

Coming on good m8. I cant see there being a problem with the way you got your bars, my hillclimb car rollcage had bars running like that obviously the cockpit was wider. Was the original idea on the plans of running the bars closer together to enable easier access?
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Re: The Phoenix - Piranha take 2

Postby Mongrel » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:33 pm

With the wings as per plans is 1220mm. My top frame without is 800mm but will have nerf bars...

Original top bar plans line up with rear down tubes at 162mm but my rear bars will be wider anyway to protect the radiator.
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